Dr. Dobson Compromises Principle for Party Pragmatics… Will You?

Let me preface this article with the major point that many Christians may not be aware of and that is this fact: John McCain supports murdering babies in the womb. In cases where the human life is a result of rape or incest, McCain believes that even though that pre-born baby is fully human (he does believe life begins at conception), the mother has the right to murder her own child. I ask the rhetorical question: If a mother who is a rape or incest victim does not have the right to murder her two month old baby outside the womb, should she have the right to murder her two month old baby inside the womb?

Please visit this web page for a shockingly candid look at McCain’s pro-abortion position.
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Now onto the the story of how one highly visible Christian man has exchanged his thinking on biblical principles for reasoning based on pragmatics and fear.

Dr. James Dobson is usually a man of high integrity and character. I have particularly appreciated his work in the political realm over the years. So it was with sadness that I watched him this year start strong on the pro-life position only to back pedal and cave into the Republican party’s scare tactics to change his position to one that supports a presidential candidate who is pro-abortion.

Below is Dr. Dobson’s original uncompromising statement regarding McCain back in February of this year (here’s the link to the audio file):

“I am deeply disappointed the Republican Party seems poised to select a nominee who did not support a Constitutional amendment to protect the institution of marriage, voted for embryonic stem cell research to kill nascent human beings, opposed tax cuts that ended the marriage penalty, has little regard for freedom of speech, organized the Gang of 14 to preserve filibusters in judicial hearings, and has a legendary temper and often uses foul and obscene language.

I am convinced Sen. McCain is not a conservative, and in fact, has gone out of his way to stick his thumb in the eyes of those who are. He has sounded at times more like a member of the other party. McCain actually considered leaving the GOP caucus in 2001, and approached John Kerry about being Kerry’s running mate in 2004. McCain also said publicly that Hillary Clinton would make a good president. Given these and many other concerns, a spoonful of sugar does NOT make the medicine go down. I cannot, and will not, vote for Sen. John McCain, as a matter of conscience.

But what a sad and melancholy decision this is for me and many other conservatives. Should Sen. McCain capture the nomination as many assume, I believe this general election will offer the worst choices for president in my lifetime. I certainly can’t vote for Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama based on their virulently anti-family policy positions. If these are the nominees in November, I simply will not cast a ballot for president for the first time in my life. These decisions are my personal views and do not represent the organization with which I am affiliated. They do reflect my deeply held convictions about the institution of the family, about moral and spiritual beliefs, and about the welfare of our country.”

Now of course we know that Dobson is supporting McCain for president. Dobson stated, “If flip-flopping is a sin, I’m a sinner,” said Mr. Dobson. “As you know, I once said I don’t see how I could ever come to support John McCain.”
About one year ago Dr. Dobson wrote an editorial for the NY Times in which he stated propositions using biblical principles:
“The other approach, which I find problematic, is to choose a candidate according to the likelihood of electoral success or failure. Polls don’t measure right and wrong; voting according to the possibility of winning or losing can lead directly to the compromise of one’s principles. In the present political climate, it could result in the abandonment of cherished beliefs that conservative Christians have promoted and defended for decades. Winning the presidential election is vitally important, but not at the expense of what we hold most dear.” — Dr. James Dobson in the NY Times Op Ed

In this same NY Times Op Ed piece Dobson commented on a pro-family leadership meeting:

“After two hours of deliberation, we voted on a resolution that can be summarized as follows: If neither of the two major political parties nominates an individual who pledges himself or herself to the sanctity of human life, we will join others in voting for a minor-party candidate. Those agreeing with the proposition were invited to stand. The result was almost unanimous.”

So earlier this year Dobson based his thinking on biblical principles. Previous to these quotes he even made a vow before God to “never cast one vote for any man or woman who would kill one innocent baby”. Dobson was absolutely correct in his understanding of the issues of abortion in the cases of rape, incest, and the life of the mother. Those little babies are still babies whom God has granted life and no man has the right to take that life away.

The plain fact is that McCain is pro-abortion, he supports the murder of innocent children in the womb (from incest, rape, etc). We should not be voting for the lesser of two evils because that is still a vote for evil. We should cast a vote for righteousness. Whether one party wins or loses is not the primary principle, it is doing the right thing before God. Before the Sovereign God who is the One who lifts up rulers and casts them down. Our responsibility is to do what is right, what is biblical and leave the consequences to God.

Here’s a “what if” scenario. What if Obama is as terrible as he sounds. And what if McCain is exactly what he is, except for one new piece of information. What if McCain also happens to be a serial murderer. He happens to go out every weekend and murder an innocent human being. But his policies are all the same and Obama’s policies will take away all our freedoms. So would you still vote for McCain? Why not? Probably not because you have to stand before God and tell Him that you cast a vote for a murderer. God will not care about your reasoning that Obama was going to destroy this nation. You voted for a murderer. Now back to reality: anyone who votes for McCain, votes for a man who supports murdering babies in the womb. Do you want to stand before God saying you stood with this man?

Another scenario: what if Obama was a serial murderer and McCain was a serial rapist? Would you vote for the lesser of two evils? Or would you find a candidate who was a true Christian, truly pro-life and look into that candidate seriously?

It seems that fear of losing our freedoms (or personal peace and affluence) is the motivating factor to vote for someone who supports murdering babies. But the Scriptures are clear that we are to fear God rather than men. The Christian life is not about comfort, but about God’s glory. We are to focus on bringing glory to God, pleasing Him and allow Him to bring us comfort and joy in His timing. We don’t need to seek our own comfort, especially if that includes compromising God’s values.

For example, my children’s comfort is not my highest priority in life. My most important duty and desire (in regards to my children) is that they love the Lord their God with all their heart, soul, mind and strength. If this means they must endure persecution and discomfort in order to have them be conformed to the image of Christ, then so be it. It will not be easy for me to see in the flesh, but in the Spirit, my soul will rejoice knowing that persecution for Christ’s sake will bring blessings in the long run.

What I’m trying to get at is the foundational principles of why Christians are disagreeing on who to vote for president. I will be voting for the thirdy party, Christian, pro-life candidate because he will honor God by supporting life. Others seem to be voting for the pro-abortion republican because they are afraid of what the democrat will do to America. The Republican party seems to be very successful using its scare tactics. But once again, God calls Christians to not fear what men can do. Trust in the sovereignty of God, that He will accomplish his will in this election. Our human responsibility is to do what is right in the sight of God regardless of the consequences. Sometimes this will mean persecution for the Christan, prison or even death but we must make our decisions based on God’s word, not based on pragmatism. Cast your vote in light of eternity, in light of biblical principles, for the glory of God.

In the fear of the LORD,
Tony

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Pragmatics and Politics: Abortion and the Presidency.

With the 2008 Presidential elections coming up I thought I would share a few simple thoughts that have been looming in my mind. 1) I will not vote for a pro-abortion presidential candidate and 2) Thankfully I don’t have to vote for Obama or McCain.
 
First off, I would like to state that I would never vote for someone who is a serial murderer or serial rapist. I don’t care how great their foreign policy is, how wonderful their economic stimulus plan is, how experienced in running a government he is, if the man is a murderer, I will not vote for him. If my choice is between a murderer and a rapist, I would look for another candidate who is truly qualified, as murder and rape disqualifies a man to be president, in my book. I will not vote for the lesser of two evils.
 
In the same way, if someone supports murder by being pro-abortion, he is disqualified, he will not get my vote. It seems that most conservatives used to think this way until the last few elections. It was a litmus test, a legitimate litmus test that said, “If you are pro murdering little babies in the womb, you won’t get my vote.”
 
A couple paradigm shifting realities that don’t seem to get mentioned much are 1) McCain supports murdering babies in some cases and 2) There are more than two presidential candidates, at least one of which is truly pro-life in all cases.
 
As everyone knows Obama is pro-abortion, he is for murdering babies in the mother’s womb (and even outside at times). Many folks think that McCain must therefore be pro-life, anti-abortion. We know that McCain stated this year that he believes that life begins at the moment of conception, whereas Obama said the question of when life begins is above his pay grade to answer.
 
However, it is not highly publicized that though McCain is pro-life in most cases, he is pro-abortion in some cases, namely in the cases of rape, incest or when the life of the mother is in jeopardy (typically known as the exception clause). So he would say he is pro-life with exceptions, but you could just as accurately say he is pro-abortion with exceptions.
 
Let me ask you a question, do you think it is the right of a woman who was a victim of rape to be able to murder her 1 year old baby? How about her 6 month old baby? Of course not. Just because she was a rape or incest victim does not give her the right to kill another human life. Now what if the baby is 4 months old…in the womb? Now does she have the right to kill her own baby? I hope you see the clear answer. But McCain (and George W. Bush for that matter) believe that the rape or incest victim somehow has the right to murder her baby in the womb! This is unconscionable, let alone unbiblical.
 
In a sense, Obama is actually less cruel than McCain when it comes to the abortion issue. Obama basically says he doesn’t believe life begins at conception, therefore when he supports killing babies in the womb, he ostensibly does not believe he is ending actual human life. McCain, on the other hand, since he does recognize that life begins at conception, when he support abortion in the “exception” cases, he knows that he is ending a human life.
 
Just as there are abortion survivors who are giving their voices to those little babies who are born alive in a failed abortion attempt, there are children of rape victims who would not be here if McCain had his way, they would be murdered by their own mothers and physicians.
 
Imagine if Obama was pro-life with exceptions (i.e. pro-abortion) and McCain was completely pro-life with no exceptions. Do you think Christians would vote for Obama? Do you think Christians would see the exception clause as merely a coverup for supporting the murder of babies in the womb? Do you think conservative pundits would say that Obama and McCain were both pro-life? I could see Christians up in arms as they see the truth that Obama is pro-abortion and that McCain is the only true pro-life candidate. Unfortunately I have seen even strong, biblical Christians trade principle for pragmatics during an election year.
 
Interestingly, McCain actually disagrees with the official Republican platform, which is truly pro-life with no exceptions. Watch a clip from the 2000 Republican primary race as McCain tries to change the official platform to be in line with his values, while George W. Bush tries to keep the platfrom unchanged, even though it conflicts with his values (Bush is pro-abortion as well). Alan Keyes, a fully pro-life candidate shows the treachery of both positions. It seems that during this year’s campaign, McCain has taken Bush’s strategy of simply counting on the fact that most conservatives will think he’s pro-life. Unfortunately, it seems to be working.

Now that we have established 1) That I will not vote for a murderer and someone who supports murder and 2) Both Obama and McCain support the murder of babies in certain situations, does this mean that I will not cast a vote this year? Or are there other presidential candidates who are truly pro-life and thus not disqualified for the presidency? Praise the Lord, there is at least one.
 
Chuck Baldwin, on the Constitution Party ticket, is seeking to become the next President of the United States of America. This is a man who is truly pro-life with no exceptions. I may not agree with him on every issue, but at the very least he is not disqualified to be president based on the abortion issue. Chuck Baldwin (and Darrell Castle for VP) is on the ballot in 37 states including Ohio and Kentucky (in Indiana and 10 more states you can write his name in).  
 
Is this just ‘throwing away your vote’ or ‘a vote for third party is a vote for Obama’? Not at all. Christians are to live by principle, not pragmatics. We are called to employ biblical principles in our decision making and not cast votes primarily out of fear. Christianity is not a system that is concerned with ‘winning’ nor even with ‘doing what works’. Christianity is concerned with honoring God, fearing Him and making decisions that glorify Him, even if they don’t seem to ‘work’, or put us in a position to ‘win’. Our responsibility is to be obedient to His word, the consequences are God’s responsibility.
 

Here’s an independent website that compares all the candidates. This particular webpage shows Chuck Baldwin’s take on the issues http://www.ontheissues.org/Chuck_Baldwin.htm This page shows McCain’s specific stand on abortion. http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/John_McCain_Abortion.htm

Please cast your vote “Corum Deo”, i.e. before the face of God and vote according to biblical principles. I pray that we remember God is sovereign over all things including our nation and who leads it.  Whoever our next leader may be will be God’s doing to work out glory for Himself, be it blessing for us or a curse on our nation.  May the Lord bless you as you seek to honor Him with your vote.

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  1. Anonymous said,

    October 27, 2008 at 6:24 pm

    NO JOHN MCCAIN IS PRO-LIFE PUT HIM DOWN BECAUSE OBAMA IS THE BABY KILLER..GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT BEFORE YOU THO THEM OUT THERE

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From the Mouth of Babes: Justification and “Goodification”

The other day as I was teaching the children about the difference between justification, sanctification and glorification, Stephen (then 4) said the cutest thing. I was explaining that there are three senses to salvation or deliverance. For the Christian, there is a past tense to salvation, a present tense and a future tense (the completed salvation).
1) In justification God delivered us from the penalty of sin (eternal death).

2) In sanctification God is delivering us from the power of sin (by making us more holy).

3) In glorification God will deliver us from the very presence of sin (in Heaven).

During this conversation, as we talked about God imputing (or reckoning) Jesus’ righteousness to us in justification, Stephen asked, “What about goodification?” I was startled, but managed to ask him what that was. He answered, “When do we get Jesus goodness?” “Ah” I answered. “That would be in justification. We get Christ’s goodness or perfectness or righteousness when we repent of our sins and trust in Christ alone for salvation. So basically justification and goodification are the same thing.”

It was such a blessing to see he understood that we need Christ’s goodness credited to us in order to be righteous in God’s eyes. So now we have a new theological term “goodification”. When God imputes Christ’s goodness to our account based on the work of the cross and through the instrument of faith in Him. Maybe I should submit this to Wayne Grudem for the next edition of his “Systematic Theology”? :-)

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  1. Mom said,

    February 13, 2008 at 4:54 pm

    This is too precious! Such a brilliant mind and understanding our Lord has gifted to my precious first grandson, Stephen. Halleluia! Praise the Lord!!

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“Christian Hedonist” vs. hedonistic Christian

You may have heard of the thesis called “Christian Hedonism” conjured up by John Piper. Folks who subscribe to this philosophy call themselves “Christian Hedonists”. Notice what is the main subject and what is the modifier in that phrase.

First and foremost the subject of the term is hedonist. That is, one can primarily be described as a hedonist (a person who pursues self-pleasure as their highest aim in life). Secondarily the adjective Christian is used. That is, “Christian” is the specific type of hedonist that one is. This type of hedonist has found that the one object that gives him the most pleasure is God. In other words, one is essentially a hedonist first and foremost with the term Christian simply being a modifier.

This can be shown to be true by simply turning the words around, i.e. if you were a “hedonistic Christian” you would first and foremost be identifying yourself as a Christian, the term ‘hedonistic’ is simply the type of Christian you are. In this instance, you could say you follow after or pursue Christ first, and the way you pursue Christ is hedonisticly.

But Dr. Piper has seen fit to say that he wants all men to be Christian Hedonists, i.e. become hedonists first and foremost (pursue your own happiness as your goal in life) and the best way to accomplish the goal of getting the most pleasure for yourself is to maximize your self-pleasure in God (now he gets to call it “Christian”).

In other words, Christian Hedonism is real hedonism at the core, foundational, heart-motive level. It becomes Christian because he has found that the best object to be happy in is God. To me that sounds like self using God as an object from a self-centered motive to achieve the goal of satisfying self’s desire for self-happiness.

Listen to John Piper’s description, “Those who know me best know that I am a Christian Hedonist. That means that I think my desire to be happy is a proper motive for everything I do. I do what I do because I think it will make me happier in the long run. In fact, I think that if I abandon this pursuit of joy, I will become incapable of worshiping and obeying God.”

Of course a Biblical Christian (or just plain old-fashioned ‘Christian’) is not pursuing his own self-pleasure at all, but rather makes it his ambition to please the Lord.

Rom 15:1-3 Now we who are strong ought to bear the weaknesses of those without strength and not please ourselves. Each of us is to please his neighbor for his good, to his edification. For even Christ did not please Himself; but as it is written, “The reproaches of those who reproached You fell on Me.”

2 Cor 5:9 Therefore we also have as our ambition, whether at home or absent, to be pleasing to Him.

A plain vanilla ‘Christian’ is not concerned about his own happiness, yet generally receives tons of joy as a gift from the Lord, as a by-product of obedience and service to Him.

Let us endeavor to please God in all respects ( Col 1:10) and abandon the pursuit of our own pleasure with no fear of Piper’s man-made condemnation that we’ll be “incapable of worshiping and obeying God”.

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    November 12, 2008 at 8:01 pm

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The Bible Tabernacle Study

In July on our way home from the NEA outreach we stopped by to spend a few days in Amish country, PA. We went to the Mennonite Information Center to tour their life size replica of the Biblical Tabernacle. It was very neat. We picked up a small ‘build it yourself’ model and one day the children and I put it all together. It was a great experience. Here are some pictures of another family putting together the same model. Bible Tabernacle ModelPhoto of plastic tabernacle model kit
We also used the iLumina Bible study software (excellent product which deserves its own blog post later) to reinforce how it was all made and why. It was great going over how many aspects of the tabernacle are a type of Christ and foreshadowing the gospel. The most exciting part was seeing how God was using this teaching, particularly in Stephen’s life. This was the first time that Stephen truly got very interested in the things of the Lord. He was enthralled with the tabernacle and everything about it.
 The Tabernacle Video - DVDWe watched a video about it as well.

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Blogging the 2007 Answers in Genesis NEA Outreach

The outreach to the teachers at the NEA’s annual convention went very well, praise the Lord. We had a wonderful time sharing the truth of creation and the gospel message with thousands of teachers. We also recorded reports from our volunteers after they talked with the public school teachers. Here is the link to the blog with lots of pictures and a couple of videos too.

http://blogs.answersingenesis.org/blogs/nea-2007

Please pray for something: I am working with Roger Patterson (former public school teacher, now AiG staff who wrote “Evolution Exposed”) on a booklet called “Education Exposed: The myth of neutrality in the public schools”. Please pray that we would write this well to show how the government indoctrination centers are temples of secular humanism and that AiG would publish it. Thanks!

 

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John Piper is BAD!!

This is just hilarious! Yes, John Piper is BAD! He doesn’t just do bad things, he IS bad! As many of you know Piper is a “seven point” Calvinist and “charismatic” preacher with a major voice in Christianity today. This video was done by some of his supporters in light hearted humor. I really enjoyed it. If you thought John MacArthur rapping was something, wait till you see this!

Though Piper may have many good things to say (such as his statements in this video), unfortunately, his teaching on “Christian Hedonism” is truly bad (i.e. in error). But more on that later…

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  1. CY said,

    September 12, 2007 at 1:37 am

    have you gone to your brother-in-Christ and shared with him the errors of his teaching?

  2. tramsek said,

    September 12, 2007 at 10:18 am

    Hi CY,
    I sent an email to John Piper sharing the following link http://www.thefaithfulword.org/cathedonism.html and asked him to consider turning from his unbiblical teaching. If and when he responds, I’ll post an entry on it. Thanks.

  3. Laura said,

    December 20, 2007 at 4:44 pm

    I’m curious why you call his Christian Hedonism teaching “unbiblical”. He has an unbelieveable amount of very biblical support for his teachings. Not a word is preached in his church without biblical support. I attended for many years before moving.
    I’d love to hear your thoughts on why this is not biblical.

  4. tramsek said,

    December 21, 2007 at 6:38 pm

    Hi Laura,

    Thanks for stopping by. As for why I believe that the teaching of “Christian Hedonism” is unbiblical, please visit http://www.thefaithfulword.org/cathedonism.html No pastor has perfect teaching in every area. John Piper teaches a lot of good, pure, righteous doctrine, but his philosophy of “Christian Hedonism” just can’t be supported from the Bible. Thanks,

    Tony

  5. tramsek said,

    December 21, 2007 at 6:41 pm

    Hi CY,

    I tried to contact John Piper to talk with him, but his assistant simply responded with an email. When I asked to talk with the assistant on the phone, he said he was too busy. I’m truly perplexed as to how regular Christians can hold popular Christian leaders accountable if we can’t even get to talk with them. I wonder if there is some solution to this. I’m open to hearing ideas. Thanks,

    Tony

  6. Alessya said,

    April 15, 2008 at 10:38 pm

    John Piper is a man sent by God to awake us “christians” from owr ideas of how GOD should punish us and judge us, GOD is blessing this man and his mission here on this earth, he says GOD’S Word and we “christians” don’t like it, the Truth Is The Truth. we should work as a team to spread the Gosple to unbeleivers not fight aganist each other, so let’s act like Little Christ and accept the Word of GOD and tell people how awsome HE is!!!….

  7. Craig W. Booth said,

    June 9, 2008 at 6:33 pm

    A comment was posted by Alessya:

    “John Piper is a man sent by God to awake us “christians” from owr ideas of how GOD should punish us and judge us, GOD is blessing this man and his mission here on this earth, he says GOD’S Word and we “christians” don’t like it, the Truth Is The Truth. we should work as a team to spread the Gosple to unbeleivers not fight aganist each other, so let’s act like Little Christ and accept the Word of GOD and tell people how awsome HE is!!!….”

    What a wonderful sincerity and passion Alessya expresses regarding her faith. No one should belittle a person for genuine faith.

    So in tenderness, I would like to encourage Alessya to contemplate a few items during her quiet moments with the Lord. She said we should “act like Little Christ and accept the Word of GOD.” To this, I must make my own impassioned appeal. We must act like, imitate, and strive to be like Christ, our God. This includes imitating how He corrected His own faithful followers of their errors, even euphemistically calling them “Satan” to help them understand that to ascribe to error, no matter how well intentioned, is to further Satan’s efforts and not His. Christ rebuked, refuted, and pulled down the strongholds of falsehood within the ranks of those who gathered around Him. Dare we do less?

    Alessya seems to imply that it is not possible to tell people how awesome Christ is if we take the time to correct the errors of our brethren. I seriously beg to differ. If we did not correct the biblical errors of our brethren then we would by necessity have a low view of God, so low that we would tolerate virtually anyone who mocked Him with improper names and offensive labels, only one of which is “hedonist.” God is not a hedonist, and it is wretched disrespect of the worst kind to accuse God of being something that He is not. We think so highly and so awesomely of God that we cannot allow those who claim Him as Savior to malign His glorious name by accusing Him of being a hedonist.

    In closing, I would like to say that it may be true that much of what John Piper preaches comes from Scripture. And when it does, we echo the Amen! But when he preaches that God is a hedonist and that Christians must convert to Christian Hedonism to become saved (“Unless a man be born again into a Christian Hedonist he cannot see the Kingdom of God”–John Piper, Desiring God), he has ceased “saying God’s Word” and has begun preaching his own.

    Search the Bible today, Alessya. Where do you find this statement, “Unless a man be born again into a Christian Hedonist he cannot see the Kingdom of God”? If you cannot find this in your Bible then you must conclude that not everything that Piper preaches is God’s Word.

    Alessya, thank you for your intended rebuke. We take it in the spirit of love it is offered.

    May Christ increase your love for Him.

    Craig W. Booth

  8. Bobby said,

    May 6, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    John Piper is making a point when he says “you must be born again into a Christian Hedonist” he is making a point that you must treasure (be happy in) Christ above all else. Are you contending that we should not be happy about what Christ has done for us and enjoy him?
    Also, making the point that if you can’t find the exact wording of a statement of a pastor in the bible you shouldn’t listen is a bit rediculous.
    I do appreciate the fact that you are concerned about Truth. I’m glad you are not a wishy washy “everything is good if it’s good for you” type.

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